Mark Zuckerbergrendapg, the chief executive of Meta, recently appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast to lament the absence of “masculine energy” in the corporate world.

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“I think a lot of the corporate world is pretty culturally neutered,” Zuckerberg said during his nearly three-hour conversation with Rogan, adding, “Masculine energy is good, and obviously, society has plenty of that, but I think corporate culture was really trying to get away from it.” Zuckerberg continued, “I think having a culture that celebrates the aggression a bit more has its own merits that are really positive.”

It’s unclear what, exactly, Zuckerberg meant by this. Men dominate most high-paying and high-status fields. A large majority of high-level corporate executives, from vice presidents and senior vice presidents to C.E.O.s and C.F.O.s, are men. In the world of Silicon Valley — that is to say, Zuckerberg’s world — women remain a minority. About 25 percent of tech jobs are held by women,66jogo casino and according to a 2021 report, a scant 4.7 percent of companies in the Silicon Valley 150 have a woman as chief executive, compared with the roughly 6 percent of companies in the S&P 500 that can say the same.

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Mr. Williams has been slowly working behind the scenes to prepare for the job, and began talking with his allies about the scenario as early as last year, not long after the mayor’s cellphone and other electronic devices were seized in November, according to two people familiar with the matter.

If, even as a small share of the work force and corporate leadership, this is so many women that it demands a return to more “masculine energy,” it would be interesting what Zuckerberg thinks is the optimal level of female employment in his industry.

But the Meta C.E.O.’s complaints of emasculation aside, I was struck — watching his interview with Rogan — by Zuckerberg’s presentation. He has grown his hair and appears to have put on a little muscle. He wore an oversize T-shirt and a gold chain. He is nearly a year past 40, but he dresses like a bro. Imagine a 22-year-old at an S.E.C. tailgate.

And consider the venue: Rogan’s podcast, where long and meandering conversations are punctuated by moments of transgression and where manhood is often held to be the celebration of that transgression.

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